HCS Forum - The VGM/Others Instrument Source Thread

by alexnaveira at 7:05 PM EDT on April 4, 2016: @icecream

yeah I looked for it on VA as well and can't find it either
by alexnaveira at 9:23 PM EDT on April 4, 2016: XY Super Training brass is definitely VSL, check the trumpet ensemble library (not 3-4 Trumpets, and it's not in the Kontakt version either)

https://clyp.it/x12lfsjr
by felineki at 11:01 PM EDT on April 5, 2016: Hey, I finally found the source of that Gradius III orchestra hit I've posted about a few times recently! It's "Hit-07" on the "Akai Sound Library Vol. 8: GM Sets" CD.

https://clyp.it/yhsm3bs0
by Master_E at 11:34 PM EDT on April 6, 2016: Good finds, the both of ya!
by felineki at 12:28 PM EDT on April 7, 2016: Here's a little comparison for that orchestra hit:

Straight from the game:
https://clyp.it/jbsco0qa
Recreation using the source sample:
https://clyp.it/h3nf3vu3
by Nisto at 7:52 PM EDT on April 7, 2016: I made an attempt at recreating CLAW FINGER from Silent Hill a few weeks ago. It only uses one sample so it was pretty easy. The original sample sounds a bit different as the in-game sample is only mono of course (which may have been intentional and not just a limitation). But downmix it to mono and you'll see it's much closer to the in-game version (which sounds quite different from the track on the OST CD). Anyway. it's actually a cut from a longer ambient pad on Underfire by AMG with a manual loop. You pretty much wouldn't hear it unless you heard the in-game sample and then skipped to the right part into the original sample.

https://clyp.it/mbjnibn3
Pokemon X & Y by alexnaveira at 3:32 PM EDT on April 9, 2016: We already knew XY and ORAS use Omnisphere but a bit more specifically the XY Game Sync track uses one of the "backwards piano" presets during some transitions
by icecream at 9:59 AM EDT on April 18, 2016: No activity in 9 days...... I'm sad about this. Had this thread not been pinned it probably would have been forgotten.

Dunno if this was mentioned before but does anyone know where that rock organ type instrument from HG/SS comes from? It was used in a good portion of the tracks such as the Bicycle music. It was one of the instruments that moved on to gen 5, with a higher quality version being one of the lead instruments in Colress' battle theme. Help would be appreciated.
by Ghignarda at 11:15 PM EDT on April 18, 2016: Wario World's 'Courtyard' uses the Cyclotronic Resonator's Spectral LFO 1.
by Moose at 11:07 PM EDT on April 19, 2016: Speaking of Wario World, I was doing some snooping around in the ProteusVX vst and found some cool big band stabs used here and there in the soundtrack.
Unfortunately, it's a big library so I can't give specific patch names but they should be under "Hit".

The famous "Philly Hit" from what I presume is the SC-88 onwards actually shows up in the "Courtyard" theme, but the release is tighter than what appears in SC-VA. So either it's from a non-roland library or SC-VA is just inaccurate here.
by Jasper at 2:24 AM EDT on April 20, 2016: I recently came across the original source files for Mario Kart 64's title theme. I imagine most of them have been ID'd already, but just in case you're curious:

https://mega.nz/#!RsZRGRzT!R0zoeVmaAr9AiEh4sGASPAQEfTyDb_1lHBp5DVvcSvU
by dj4uk6cjm at 2:36 AM EDT on April 20, 2016: Yeah its already been confirmed by punk7890 and many other sources that Wario World is mostly full SC-88, I have the Sound Canvas VST too and it has a lot of the samples from the game.

I guess some instrument splits could be from other stuff, another user here found the "Yeah" "Ugh" voice SFX from the Courtyard theme on a Korg M1 or M3 I think it was not that long ago. I agree the Proteus VX is known to have Wario World samples for sure as well.

All in all its a great game, too short with a great soundtrack. Totally deserves a remake or a sequel someday.
by punk7890-2 at 2:52 AM EDT on April 20, 2016: @Jasper Mario Kart 64 uses a SC-88 for its instruments. You can check out my remaster of the select menu screen

Yeah, I recall Wario World has a majority of SC-88 instruments.
by alexnaveira at 11:25 AM EDT on April 20, 2016: does anyone have any idea on where the piano here is from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7joCXpQ6z4
by alexnaveira at 11:31 AM EDT on April 20, 2016: replying to myself here, a track from the Pokemon BW soundtrack also has the same piano and it's from 2010, so a plugin with the piano has to come from before it - found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x93hUqPpW4A

edit: apparently it came out in 2012, maybe it's sampled from an earlier library from cinesamples or something

edited 11:33 AM EDT April 20, 2016
by alexnaveira at 6:20 PM EDT on April 20, 2016: https://clyp.it/zbildvwb definitely the same piano, check it here on the ORAS ending theme, its the same one
by Ghignarda at 6:38 PM EDT on April 20, 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekul0pBwGQ

Does anybody have a clue where the sound at .04 might come from? It's scattered throughout the TTYD soundtrack, so I don't assume it's a sample they personally modified themselves.

Also, I've found quite a few songs from TTYD (probably more, but I don't have the best ear for it) utilise samples from Percussive Adventures 1.

Invincible Shadow Queen Theme uses two samples from the Jumanji set.

Theme of The Punies uses Red Corner.

Detective Pennington uses All That Jazz.

There are quite a few ethno drums/others that sound faintly familiar too, but not sure if they came from Percussive or not.
by Ghignarda at 6:58 PM EDT on April 20, 2016: Also, Doshin the Giant uses a sample from Cuckooland Asylum as a sound effect.

https://clyp.it/4n5kwp5c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDZg-vYAyg

2.04
by Benjamin at 8:11 PM EDT on April 20, 2016: Does Percussive Adventure 2 have any of the PA1 sounds? I couldn't find much info on PA1 anywhere with a quick Google search.
by dj4uk6cjm at 2:37 PM EDT on April 21, 2016: I forgot what Donkey Kong Jungle Beat used for its soundtrack, mainly this song. Its my favorite, anyone know? Would be much appreciated thanks.

edited 2:38 PM EDT April 21, 2016
by Nisto at 7:04 AM EDT on April 24, 2016: Does anyone have JV-2080/1080 or XP-50 samples by any chance? I am looking for a Timpani(-like?) sample. I heard something similar to it on the JV-2080 demos on Synthmania but I can't find that patch anywhere. And I finally got around to testing the Sound Canvas VST module but sadly the one Timpani sample that's on it doesn't sound the same - it sounds much thinner. I know the composer used SC-88 Pro, EX5R and JV-2080, so I'm figuring it could very likely be on the latter. I already have what appears to be a full drum collection from the EX5(R), but I couldn't find anything like it there. Really, I'd be happy with any source, as long as it sounds identical.

edited 7:15 AM EDT April 24, 2016
by Benjamin at 11:12 AM EDT on April 24, 2016: I just found that Super Paper Mario's Whoa Zone uses these samples from Best Service ProSamples Vol.45 - Techno ID.

"45-fx01-138"
"45-fx07-138"
"45j-prc03-138"

Also TTYD's "Deep in the Shadows" uses FUNK INC 096 from ProSamples vol.24 - Breakbeats.

edited 11:46 AM EDT April 24, 2016
by XaikuTheMaverickHunter at 1:13 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: Has anyone found samples used in the PSX Mega Man X games? I know this is sudden, but I'm highly curious about them.
by punk7890-2 at 3:25 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: @Nisto That timpani is definitely from Roland. More than likely from a 2080. Tonality wise, it sounds like a SC-88 timpani but with a lowish boom in it. Also would you mind posting that EX5R drum kit? I'd like to take a look.

EDIT: I figured I had that sample somewhere, turns out I do. Unfortunately I don't know what module it comes from but probably a 2080. Here is the individual split it uses. And here is the entire soundfont it comes from. I even discovered I have a fuller range with tons of velocity Timpani like that.

edited 3:46 PM EDT April 24, 2016
by XaikuTheMaverickHunter at 5:36 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: REPOST: Has anyone found samples used in the PSX Mega Man X games? I know this is sudden, but I'm highly curious about them.
by punk7890-2 at 6:16 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: Post some YouTube links of songs. I'll take a quick listen. Not sure why many people don't do this.
by peronmls at 9:01 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: --miss read.

edited 9:02 PM EDT April 24, 2016
by XaikuTheMaverickHunter at 9:09 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: Okay, I understand. Here are links to videos showcasing music from Mega Man X4, and trust me; I have almost ALL of the tracks from the game listed here, so I hope this helps.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vblaTqrLEdI

Intro stage when playing as X*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAwnAx3TGBY

Intro stage when playing as Zero*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zv7cdENr0

1st Stage Select theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edag7mUbER0

Magma/Magmard Dragoon's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUV_clmJbuc

Web Spider/Web Spidus' stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cfciHA3Lx4

Frost Walrus/Kibatodos' stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cmgvzqK2g8

Split Mushroom's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mdceJx7x6g

Cyber Peacock/Kujacker's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-191AYCHB0w

Storm Owl/Fukuroul's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qUsOC8xUI

Jet Stingray/Stingren's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKq68xrJGzw

Slash Beast(leo)'s stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru7aJzmT6es

Eregion's theme (I chose this video because it has the Sega Saturn version's opening crescendo)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDAW5f_nmDE

Normal Boss theme (this is the only video I could find)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLIUvazc3Kg

2nd Stage Select
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcrHLIwMQqA

Spaceport Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQRwSKjxjHM

Final Weapon Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzB4P7T8edQ

Repliforce Commander Boss Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN2OxtS4fIQ

Iris' Boss Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSLWrVcm1_8

Double's Boss Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xaGpzHSq9A

Sigma's first and second phases
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTh2Oh0h0c

Sigma's third phase
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQNn7oXYFOM

Ending Credits (English) (Theme starts at about 1:07)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyBmLWIukd8

Since the "Ending Credits" video shows Zero's last cutscene (which contains a remixed sample of his Intro Stage theme), I thought I'd do the same for X, for the sake of completeness.
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EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZp6TU5p1eI

Opening theme (English)

edited 9:11 PM EDT April 24, 2016
by RukarioGyiyg996 at 9:42 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: Anybody have a clue what the hell this samples off of?

PLANET.mp3
by punk7890-2 at 10:40 PM EDT on April 24, 2016: @XaikuTheMaverickHunter Sorry, I checked quite a few of those songs and do not recognize a single sample. I can't even begin to guess.
by Nisto at 12:36 AM EDT on April 25, 2016: @punk7890-2: thank you very much for that soundfont!

Here is the Yamaha EX5 drum collection: https://www.sendspace.com/file/7k7u3t

edited 12:37 AM EDT April 25, 2016
by Ghignarda at 9:15 AM EDT on April 25, 2016: Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love's final boss theme utilises a sample from SoundForest's Voice Fusion sample cd.

https://clyp.it/cedaxn3v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5BFeG8sb9M
by starerik at 8:09 PM EDT on April 25, 2016: I am really impressed how you all find these obscure libraries.
by XaikuTheMaverickHunter at 9:15 PM EDT on April 25, 2016: REPOST: <--- Just in case anyone else is interested in helping me. Here, again, are links to videos showcasing music from Mega Man X4, and trust me; I have almost ALL of the tracks from the game listed here, so I hope this helps the person this catches the attention of.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vblaTqrLEdI

Intro stage when playing as X*
-------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAwnAx3TGBY

Intro stage when playing as Zero*
-------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zv7cdENr0

1st Stage Select theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edag7mUbER0

Magma/Magmard Dragoon's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUV_clmJbuc

Web Spider/Web Spidus' stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cfciHA3Lx4

Frost Walrus/Kibatodos' stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cmgvzqK2g8

Split Mushroom's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mdceJx7x6g

Cyber Peacock/Kujacker's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-191AYCHB0w

Storm Owl/Fukuroul's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qUsOC8xUI

Jet Stingray/Stingren's stage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKq68xrJGzw

Slash Beast(leo)'s stage
-------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru7aJzmT6es

Eregion's theme (I chose this video because it has the Sega Saturn version's opening crescendo)
-------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDAW5f_nmDE

Normal Boss theme (this is the only video I could find)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLIUvazc3Kg

2nd Stage Select
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcrHLIwMQqA

Spaceport Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQRwSKjxjHM

Final Weapon Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzB4P7T8edQ

Repliforce Commander Boss Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN2OxtS4fIQ

Iris' Boss Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSLWrVcm1_8

Double's Boss Theme
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xaGpzHSq9A

Sigma's first and second phases
-------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTh2Oh0h0c

Sigma's third phase
-------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQNn7oXYFOM

Ending Credits (English) (Theme starts at about 1:07)
-------------------------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyBmLWIukd8

Since the "Ending Credits" video shows Zero's last cutscene (which contains a remixed sample of his Intro Stage theme), I thought I'd do the same for X, for the sake of completeness.
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EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZp6TU5p1eI

Opening theme (English)
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*One thing I forgot to mention in my orignal post was that the tunes highlighted by the asterisk(*) serve as the basis for the victory themes for their respective characters.

edited 9:19 PM EDT April 25, 2016
by Nisto at 4:49 AM EDT on April 26, 2016: Does anyone know of any libraries with piano riffs and the likes from 1990-2001? Were there any such libraries at all? I've got a bunch of samples from various games that I've been curious about for quite a while now..

https://www.sendspace.com/file/n6v42b (apologies about inaccurate sample rates)

I guess it is possible some of these have been recorded by the composers beforehand.. ? But I'm sort of hoping otherwise. :P

edited 5:38 AM EDT April 26, 2016
by punk7890-2 at 3:39 PM EDT on April 26, 2016: I'd imagine they were recorded before hand as I heard a SC-88 harp in the mix of one of those samples.
by Benjamin at 5:44 AM EDT on April 29, 2016: I've just begun listening to the Kirby: Planet Robobot music, and I think I might've heard one of the Roland Fantom pads in "Ayasii" (I forgot what it's called since I don't have one but it sounds like the one used in Super Mario Galaxy when one of Bowser's reactors was discovered). I've been wondering where the synthesized parts came from in the modern Kirby games but didn't expect or recognize anything potentially from a Fantom.
by punk7890-2 at 2:11 AM EDT on May 2, 2016: Anybody happen to know what library these timpani's come from? Would be much appreciated to know even if its a small point into a possible direction.

edited 3:43 AM EDT May 2, 2016
by Benjamin at 5:12 AM EDT on May 2, 2016: Personally, I don't know, but maybe somebody else would, but I, too, have a timpani-related question. Is there a similar version of the timpanis from Peter Siedlaczek's Advanced Orchestra with different tuning somewhere out there? Because I heard a better tuned version in Super Paper Mario and a few songs within the modern Kirby games.

edited 5:13 AM EDT May 2, 2016
by punk7890-2 at 2:19 PM EDT on May 2, 2016: I noticed it lacked good tuning myself. I had to do it mostly manually with Viena. You can do auto calculate in Viena, or I could upload my correct tune version.

edited 2:45 PM EDT May 2, 2016
by alimu at 7:12 PM EDT on May 3, 2016: FINALLY found the snare and kick from FRLG, it's in Roland SD-90:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVwrmF6ns18

EDIT: I think the electric guitar is from here as well!

edited 7:14 PM EDT May 3, 2016
by vajuvaju at 8:58 AM EDT on May 4, 2016: Many thanks for the Google Spreadsheet in the first post, @AceK!
by Master_E at 6:39 PM EDT on May 4, 2016: @alimu

That just might be the case, alimu! Good find!

Can anybody confirm that these sounds didn't appear in earlier SoundCanvas models? And on a separate note, does FR/LG have more instruments than RS? If so, that would support the theory.
by icecream at 9:11 PM EDT on May 4, 2016: also @alimu

Do you know if any soundfont or VST exists for the SD-90? alexnaveira and I looked, the closest thing we could find was a "THFont.sf2", which doesn't have any drums.

EDIT:
@Master_E: I think FRLG has more instruments, since there are additional drums and guitars not heard in Ruby and Sapphire. But that's just from what I've been told.

edited 12:05 AM EDT May 5, 2016
by midiman at 1:00 PM EDT on May 5, 2016: I have some samples from the SD-80. It should be the same I think
SD-80 2 kicks and 2 snares
by felineki at 10:52 PM EDT on May 7, 2016: Anyone else think this snare from Gradius III:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2F_6z23ujF6TmdXYjRaX0pJSjA
Might be a TR-707 snare with some heavy reverb applied?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2F_6z23ujF6QnJRbzFWU3Q2UXM

This is a hunch I've had for a while, but never been able to fully commit to saying one way or the other, so I'd like some opinions. I do know that the crash cymbal in arcade Turtles In Time was from the TR-707, so Konami was using it around that time.

I've also sort of thought that the bass drum:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2F_6z23ujF6SUItUzZ3MzlsbXM
Might be from the Korg M1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2F_6z23ujF6a0pHTE9qSm0ydHM

The open hi-hat is definitely from the M1, but I've never been able to really decide whether I think that's the right bass drum or not.

edited 11:09 PM EDT May 7, 2016
Music from Pokemon by PokeMusic at 12:19 PM EDT on May 8, 2016: What VSTs were used in making these sounds in PokÃ©mon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire and X/Y?
More specifically
- the synth lead in the Psychic music in ORAS that sounds like a heavily distorted synth church organ or electric guitar.
- the accordion in Professor Sycamore's theme in X/Y.
- the rock organ in the Trick House in ORAS.
- the organ in May in ORAS.
- the sawtooth lead (not really a lead since it is polyphonic, and not a pad because it has a percussive attack) in the ORAS PokÃ©Mart theme
Links

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhfrTlFhDA4 Professor Sycamore theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PDiOmnC_Wk PokÃ©Mart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U9DT8DGNtU Pokemon May theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0UGF9fMAXI Trick House
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hbk037hBkU Encounter! Psychic
by punk7890-2 at 5:40 PM EDT on May 8, 2016: Ocarina of Time's Tambourine comes from a EMU Emax. The Super Mario 64 Sitars may be on there as well, though I'm not fully familiar with that game. I think there is something from Twilight Princess on there as well.

SM64 Sitars?
1 2 3
OoT Tambourine
Twilight Princess related?

edited 5:41 PM EDT May 8, 2016
by Benjamin at 5:42 PM EDT on May 8, 2016: That doesn't sound like the SM64 sitars to me.
by punk7890-2 at 6:02 PM EDT on May 8, 2016: Yeah, I wouldn't know that well. I currently can't check the game either.

edited 6:02 PM EDT May 8, 2016
by dj4uk6cjm at 11:19 PM EDT on May 8, 2016: The third sample you linked sounds a little like that accompanied instrument (might be a sitar as well I don't know) that plays along with the main sitar at this point of that video.

edited 11:20 PM EDT May 8, 2016
by punk7890-2 at 11:31 PM EDT on May 8, 2016: I had time to check the game, and they aren't them unfortunately.
by peronmls at 9:54 AM EDT on May 9, 2016: Has anyone uploaded the samples from the pro ethnic kit that was used in OoT
by punk7890-2 at 3:31 PM EDT on May 9, 2016: I didn't upload the entire kit, but I uploaded the ones from OoT a few pages back. here.
by turdl3 at 6:34 PM EDT on May 12, 2016: The beginning little jingle in Maritime Memory is Japanese Android (I think that's what it's called) from Omnisphere
BW Subway Trainer by icecream at 10:35 AM EDT on May 16, 2016: We know that the Pokemon games nowadays use a lot of Stylus RMX, so maybe reporting on such individual findings isn't really that conducive, but the loop in the Subway Trainer theme (which is the same as the loop in the gen 5 World Champion theme) is actually the original Amen Break. As in, the one from the 1960s by the Winstons! How do we classify this? And are there any similar cases in other games?
Vocal organ in MKDS? by jimbo1qaz at 6:30 PM EDT on May 16, 2016: Does anyone know the source of the "vocal/percussive" organ in Mario Kart DS?

Example here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD5GsDb_Cus
It's in the MKDS soundfont. I also have it in one of my remix soundfonts here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/51ayebywq0xemno/ds_rainbow_road_v3.sf2?dl=1
super mario 3d world star world bell? by bobbyK at 11:17 PM EDT on May 22, 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV1C1JH4ecc

the first like 5 seconds, where does that bell sound come from, mixed in with some bubble sound effects. I think I heard that kind of sound before, just not sure from where. i would appreciate if you guys can help me find the library or vst, etc. Thanks!
by Benjamin at 1:02 AM EDT on May 23, 2016: I don't know which sound they are specifically, but check either Roland Fantom X (they have demos of each sound at SynthMania) or Korg Triton (unfortunately I can't find any good demos but I heard SM3DW might've used it, I can't prove that though)
by jimbo1qaz at 2:12 AM EDT on May 23, 2016: Anyone have an answer to my question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD5GsDb_Cus

Where does that organ come from?
by baggagelizard at 3:49 AM EDT on June 1, 2016: maybe sc-88, maybe not
by dj4uk6cjm at 4:49 AM EDT on June 1, 2016: Alright so I took my question to some reliable sources and found some very interesting points 2 users made on the samples I uploaded from Bomberman Hero for more information on the strings and this percussion sample and learned that the strings could be analog or FM horns with a heavy phase-shifter applied to them or in other words a heavy phased string patch from a synth. One thing we couldn't figure out is where this kind of synth comes from...whoever made it is fudging the delay in the amplitude filter quite a bit as well.

As for the percussion hi-hat clap sample, it's simply a high-pitched hat pattern with a synthetic, no-decay hand clap (like something from an old Yamaha RX7) with a lot of 'verb (probably spring reverb) applied. The clap is processed separately with some predelay in there to give that kind of delayed presence.

All I want to know is where do they come from or how in the hell can I recreate those sounds with updated samples? Because I have plenty of them...yes I need help lol do I need a heavy phase-shifter VST effect or what? Sorry I'm just obsessed with this soundtrack and the game :P by the way those 2 samples were ripped from the song "zip" if it helps. Thanks to anyone who is interested and willing to help.
Cave Story 3D drumset? by alexnaveira at 10:00 AM EDT on June 1, 2016: Anyone got an idea on where the drums come from in this song?

Last Battle - Cave Story 3D / Remastered

edited 10:00 AM EDT June 1, 2016
Stylus loops in Pokemon by alexnaveira at 11:07 AM EDT on June 1, 2016: Here is a list alimu, icecream and I as well some names from YouTube (Geothern1683 and LucasThePlatinumMaster) have concocted for Stylus loops in Pokemon (as well as some other games). It isn't complete but it's pretty big.

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Classic Stylus

57 Isle a - B2W2 Cheren Encounter
83 Breakers b - B2W2 Driftveil Gym
86 Scortched Earth - Secret Super Training
117 ProgHouse a - B2W2 Sinnoh Gym Leader Battle
123 Festivo a - B2W2 Humilau Gym
128 Chemicalizer - XD: Gale of Darkness Theme of Suspense
138 Miami a - B2W2 Johto Gym Leader Battle

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RMX Grooves
52 Alice's Dream - XY Friend Safari
Also used in Mario & Luigi: Dream Team's "Dozing Sandstorm"
54 Eclipse - ORAS Hideout
58 Motion Century - B2W2 Nimbasa Gym
60 Two Speeder Lo-fi - XY Anistar City, Dark Skies, ORAS Shoal Cave/Mt. Pyre Interior
60 Volcano Combo - The Slitherers
68 Small Blocks Beat - ORAS Encounter Diver(modificato)
68 Tower Zero - ORAS Oceanic Museum (only simple drums), Admin Encounter
Also used in Kingdom Hearts II's "The 13th Reflection", Xenoblade Chronicles' "Mechonis Field", Tales of Vesperia's "A Tragic Decision" (only first half of loop), and Mario Maker's "Create! Airship (Super Mario Bros. 3)" (only repeater)
70 Datalife - XY Looker's in Trouble!
70 Eden - B2W2 Elesa Gym Stage (alternate)
72 Liquid Frame Combo - B2W2 Castelia Gym
73 Caravan Perc - ORAS Pokemon Center, Trick House, Pokemon Shuffle Expert Stage
79 Bossa Love - Wally's Theme, ORAS Bicycle (only electro nokik in both tracks)
Also used in Mario & Luigi: Dream Team's "Welcome to P'illo Blimport!" and "Sunny Driftwood Shore"
79 Red Clouds - PR Video BGM 'Lively 3' (a), Gen 6 World Champion Theme (c)
80 Jedi - XY PR Video BGM 'Rhythmical 4'
84 Particles - XY Gate, ORAS Countdown to Destruction
85 BumGums Combo a - B2W2 Model Encounter
100 Nasty Mutation Combo a - B2W2 PWT Arena
103 Earthquake - B2W2 Reversal Mountain, XY Pokemon League (only Dist Drum)
109 War of the Thips - B2W2 Colress Battle
120 Notre Dame - ORAS Professor Birch is in Trouble!
125 Evil Echo - XY Hideout, Team Flare Battle, ORAS Primal Reversion Battle
126 Transonica - ORAS Contest Theme, SSB4 Quick Man Stage Theme
135 Floating (Combo 2?) - Wonder Trade
135 Hysteria - B2W2 Johto Champion Battle
135 Iron Boy - ORAS Magma/Aqua Grunt Battle
135 Squashed Combo 2 - Lysandre Battle
135 Yellow Funk Combo 1 - B2W2 Hoenn Gym Leader Battle
137 MicroTalk - XY PR Video BGM 'Thrilling 3'
Also used in Super Mario Maker's Title Screen and Mario Party 8's "Koopa Tycoon Town"
160 Find the Exit Combo 1 - X Firing the Eternal Flower, Lysandre Battle, ORAS Rayquaza Battle
Also used in Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep's "The Encounter" (not combo 1, it's a custom mix) and Kingdom Hearts II's "Darkness of the Unknown" (likely combo 1)
160 The Call Combo - ORAS FIVE IN A ROW!!!!!

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SAGE Expanders:
Metamorphosis
145 Fizz a - Virbank Complex / Castelia Sewers

Find anymore loops? Let everyone know!

edited 11:13 AM EDT June 1, 2016

edited 9:28 PM EDT June 1, 2016
by Master_E at 5:49 PM EDT on June 1, 2016: Woah. What a list.

Great work!
by punk7890-2 at 5:59 PM EDT on June 1, 2016: Nice list!

@dj4uk6cjm I have a few samples from Bomberman Hero. I probably have more but I'm not familiar with the game. These all come from Best Service Giga Pack, except XXL_HOUK2-145.wav. Can't remember at the moment where that came from.

On second thought, I think it comes from Best Service - XXLarge The Killer 2

edited 6:00 PM EDT June 1, 2016
ORAS Route 113 / XY Power Plant Synth!! by alexnaveira at 11:28 PM EDT on June 1, 2016: ORAS Route 113 Lead / XY Power Plant Lead is from Omnisphere! Preset is Vintage Squares Lead Unison, with longer sustain for Route 113 (I believe).
by punk7890-2 at 1:02 AM EDT on June 2, 2016: I have some stuff from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl.

Mostly everything comes from a Roland SC-88. This is a preliminary list, but its mostly safe to say almost everything is from a SC-88.

Patch 66 Alto Sax
Patch 48 Timpani 1
Timpani 2 (from Peter Siedlaczek's Advanced Orchestra)
Patch 1 Piano
Patch 2 Bright Piano
Patch 38 Slap Bass 2
Patch 31 Distortion Guitar
Patch 49 String Ensemble
Patch 15 Tubular Bell
Patch 47 Orchestral Harp

Drum Kit: Power
by alimu at 8:34 PM EDT on June 2, 2016: Hi everyone! Just found Minako Adachi's VST list, wanted to share here. She's famous for her compositions on the recent Pokemon games! Here's the list:
Kontakt
Independence
Vienna Ensemble Pro
Stylus RMX
Trilian
Play VST
Massive
Addictive Drums
QLSO Play Edition Platinum +
Omnisphere
Chris Hein Horns Pro
by Master_E at 9:09 PM EDT on June 2, 2016: Although I was an idiot and didn't save the message, the sound designer for SimTunes states he used a Roland JV-1080 and some Korg synth (Either a 01/W or a Z1).

And apparently he had an ARP 2600? I dunno I don't hear anything analog in it.

If any of you want sources for instruments used in Maxis products, pre and post EA, his website has all the details of everything he currently owns.

edited 9:24 PM EDT June 2, 2016
by Master_E at 2:56 PM EDT on June 3, 2016: Also, because I'd REALLY like peer review, could any of you guys please weigh in on my post at the bottom of page 85?

I swear that the newer models of the SoundCanvases sound darker than the older ones, and that plays a big part in all sorts of things!
Yoko Shimomura VST by icecream at 12:13 AM EDT on June 5, 2016: As a sort of late response to Master_E way back when he replied to my comment about Yoko Shimomura's VST usage, I want to get a full list of VSTs that she uses. Right now I know:

- Stylus RMX, several of its presets can be heard in her compositions (look at Alex's post on the previous page for some examples)
- East West/Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra, you can hear its strings (especially the solo violin) in a lot of her work (see her work for Kingdom Hearts, Mario & Luigi, and Super Smash Bros., such as Rage Awakened and her remix of Magicant in SSB4)
- East West/Quantum Leap Goliath, not a very prominent example as far as I can tell, but its pan flute can be heard in some of her work (see Xenoblade Chronicles Colony 9, Mario & Luigi Dream Team Sunny Driftwood Shore, and more recently in Mario & Luigi Paper Jam, idk the song because I haven't finished the game yet).

Any others that people have heard? Examples and preset names would be appreciated as well.

edited 12:17 AM EDT June 5, 2016
by icecream at 2:01 PM EDT on June 5, 2016: Also since Alex posted a list of Stylus loops used in Pokemon, I figured I'd post my own list of loops that are used in other games but not in Pokemon (and yes, some of these entries were from this thread. Actually, all but one were found here). I know I missed some, especially for Kingdom Hearts, so tell me any more you guys find:

Classic Stylus
79 Shifted Jazz
Xenoblade Chronicles - Engage the Enemy

RMX Grooves
70 Dinosaur
Mario Party 8 - All Cleared
Yoshi's Island DS - Giant Bowser
98 The Locals
Yoshi's Woolly World - World 2

SAGE Xpanders:
Metamorphosis
53 Sonar
Mario & Luigi Dream Team - Dreambeets
78 Deepknees
Mario & Luigi Dream Team - Sacred Somnom Woods, Dreamy Somnom Labyrinth (c)
80 Paulo
Mario & Luigi Dream Team - Dreamy Driftwood Meeting, Nightmare Lullaby (a)
by Enclave123 at 11:43 AM EDT on June 6, 2016: I noticed Clock Tower use a lot of Roland sc 88 presets, like the sound from the scissorman theme is in a preset SFX section call Pick Scrape you can find it in the Sound Canvas VA.

Some of the presets like the synth bass and Ahh preset been used, i even could even remember the drum presets from the sound canvas.

edited 11:46 AM EDT June 6, 2016
by baggagelizard at 2:41 AM EDT on June 7, 2016: currently seeing what Super Mario Galaxy sounds I can get out of Sound Canvas for ios, as it surely shares some waveforms with the roland synths used in that game.

edit:

Let's compare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jihuc5ffhfI

https://clyp.it/0nqb1bgi

edited 3:05 AM EDT June 7, 2016
by dj4uk6cjm at 5:48 AM EDT on June 7, 2016: Although I don't regret buying it I sure do wish the Sound Canvas VA contained all samples from super mario galaxy 1 & 2 and judging by the sounds from SCIOS the results would be the same. Nice remake of flying mario though!

I think someone here once said they heard a roland fantom in super mario galaxies soundtrack?
by baggagelizard at 3:45 AM EDT on June 8, 2016: didn't really remake it; the song data is midi in the game

SCIOS and SCVA are the same thing
by jimbo1qaz at 4:35 PM EDT on June 8, 2016: how did you rip the midi?
by Benjamin at 6:51 PM EDT on June 10, 2016: For PM:TTYD I found that the "zoom" sound used in Flurrie's theme and the Excess Express chapter intro theme comes from Ueberschall's "8 Bit Stylez", as SIDSFX048. Riddle Tower uses SIDSYN88, the Shadow Queen rebirth theme seems to use SIDPLY006, and Macho Grubba's battle theme uses SIDPLY010, and Luigi's theme uses one of the XTRADRM parts.

Does anybody else know if anything else from Ueberschall is used? I heard Chill House judging from a demo of it, but I couldn't find anything on it.
by Ghignarda at 4:46 AM EDT on June 11, 2016: Benjamin, thank you SO much for finding that out! :O I'm pretty sure that sample also plays in the intro to Bowser's Battle in Super Paper Mario (albeit subtly mixed).
by Benjamin at 7:43 AM EDT on June 11, 2016: It does. Super Paper Mario mainly had usage of the drum kits from that pack (noticably Look Out for Me and Mimi Battle).

I also think I may have also heard the Kirby 64 Dark Star drum loop in the demo of Ueberschall's "Antigravity Maneuvers", but that seems to include three sample packs and I'm not sure which one it comes from. I have been curious as to where the drum loops in that game came from for a while.

UPDATE: I found somewhat identical loops in DnB Resonance, at a slightly different pitch and not split, but I didn't find the loops related to the boss theme and Zero-Two battle.

edited 7:58 PM EDT June 11, 2016
Scouting for samples by alexnaveira at 10:15 PM EDT on June 11, 2016: Hey guys,

I realize a lot of you guys manage to find some really obscure libraries that are used in games and that's really cool - wondering how you look for sample libraries and VSTs based on one or two instruments?
by Benjamin at 10:40 PM EDT on June 11, 2016: For me, it's either by pure luck, what I've heard about, or listening to whatever demos I can find of whatever I come across.
by baggagelizard at 12:25 AM EDT on June 12, 2016: once you're familiar with the sounds, it's easier to pick them out.
by Ghignarda at 11:05 PM EDT on June 12, 2016: While this is only speculative, I have an inkling that "Sand in My Potion" from Shantae: Risky's Revenge constructed part of its groove from the Logic Pro loops Turkish Calm Riq, and Turkish Morning Oboe.
by starerik at 2:28 AM EDT on June 13, 2016: @Ghignarda Not sure, since Jake Kaufman uses Cubase and Ableton Live and not Logic. But maybe he owns Logic as well. Not seen him using it, though.
by Master_E at 7:35 PM EDT on June 13, 2016: @starerik

I've seen him compose on his Twitch stream a few times.

He combines presets like they're colors and fruit flavors. I honestly have never seen him make an instrument of his own design.
by jimbo1qaz at 11:39 PM EDT on June 13, 2016: what does that mean?
by baggagelizard at 4:04 AM EDT on June 14, 2016: I'm pretty sure virt has, or has had, a MOTIF
by Master_E at 2:37 PM EDT on June 14, 2016: Oh I thought we were talking about if virt combines presets not about what he uses.

Skimming isn't good for you, people.
HGSS Hammond Organ Part 2 by icecream at 12:09 AM EDT on June 15, 2016: Whatever the HGSS Hammond organ was is in Sun and Moon, as shown here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsdMSCaXBCk

I need to find this so badly.
by dj4uk6cjm at 12:25 AM EDT on June 15, 2016: Okay guys, it's time to get serious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMZ8P4Tdm8g what are your thoughts on this? Sounds pretty nice! Orchestral even. I think we're going to enjoy Breath of The Wild's soundtrack very much.

edited 12:25 AM EDT June 15, 2016
by baggagelizard at 4:56 AM EDT on June 15, 2016: sounds live to me. Not entirely sure about the erhu.
by Benjamin at 7:07 PM EDT on June 15, 2016: I recently found that Super Mario Galaxy 2's Yoshi drums come from Ueberschall Brazil Electro (most likely cut from Bong125 b-#756, but I could be wrong because I didn't hear the non-loop bongos). The drum loop in Beach Bowl Galaxy seems to come from Bong125 a-#755 overlayed with a conga loop, but I don't know which loop the conga comes from.
by starerik at 2:25 AM EDT on June 16, 2016: @baggagelizard They recorded an erhu for MK8 DLC, would be weird not to for Zelda.
by alexnaveira at 2:13 AM EDT on June 18, 2016: Hate to spam but does anyone have any idea on where the drums are from in this game? It's streamed so it's a VST and it's in multiple tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpmYs9JCKAo

edited 2:13 AM EDT June 18, 2016
by starerik at 12:06 PM EDT on June 18, 2016: Not entirely sure what you mean by streamed = VST.
by Nisto at 9:22 PM EDT on June 18, 2016: He probably just means that it's not likely that a composer would rip samples from a VST -- which would be required for sequenced music.
by starerik at 9:51 PM EDT on June 18, 2016: I don't really see the difference between sampling a VST and sampling a hardware synth, either way you're playing one note and recording it. With VST you don't have to hook up and record anything, just export the note/sound in your DAW. If you want that sound for your sequenced music you sample it. Would be weird if the composer went "but it's not hardware, so I can't use it.. oh well."

Besides, that's not what Alex was saying at all. Alex said that it's obviously a VST since the music is streamed. Galaxy has streamed music and is filled to the top with analog hardware gear.
by Nisto at 10:23 PM EDT on June 18, 2016: I don't really see the difference between sampling a VST and sampling a hardware synth, either way you're playing one note and recording it. With VST you don't have to hook up and record anything, just export the note/sound in your DAW.
In the case of sequenced music, I only had sample CDs in mind. Most VSTs I've seen don't allow you to export samples. Sure, it's not impossible to "export" them otherwise, but I figure composers may at least be discouraged if restricted to doing sequenced music. Also, I've never owned or used any music gear, so I'm not sure how easy (or at all) if hardware samples are directly rippable. I do have a vague memory of reading about, or seeing something being ripped (without recording) from some gear though.

Besides, that's not what Alex was saying at all. Alex said that it's obviously a VST since the music is streamed.
Not sure what you are implying here. Did you misinterpret my previous post as saying that the Galaxy music was sequenced? I was merely comparing to sequenced music.

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