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- by unknownfile at 11:45 PM EDT on May 16, 2010
- vgm doesn't support them because of how the 32x and cd sound hardware works
the cd sound hardware is CD audio plus a sample replayer mfg'd by ricoh; it's pretty much the same sample chip used in system 32 games
the 32x uses pulse-width modulation to replay sound samples
basically you're logging a lot of sample data here so you might as well just dump mp3s
- by holyice7 at 11:51 PM EDT on May 16, 2010
- What UF said.
My point about my soundcard is that it has some fancy play/record function to output whatever sounds the programs on my PC are making to an audio-in of some kind, which I can then record in lossless formats as I wish.
I'm saying that if I'd had this sound card then, I could have simply recorded the game emulator's output directly into a streamed format, rather than fiddling around with an obscure audio format, or emulated sound that wasn't designed for the system I was using.
- by Chupperson Weird at 8:47 PM EDT on May 17, 2010
- Dude, as far as I know you can manually set any sound card to be the recording source. In the recording volume control panel.
- by RukarioGyiyg996 at 9:05 PM EDT on May 17, 2010
- Most soundcards\integrated tend to try to hide and disable the "WaveOutMix" or "What 'U' Hear" recording inputs due to fear of "copyright infringement", and it's almost always disabled and hidden (in dumb ways) in Windows 7\Vista.
But for most, some sound cards that do this feature tend to have a little noise in the recording input, which is why I tend to use emulator wave dumps rather than recording from input's like that.
- by Mouser X at 9:20 PM EDT on May 17, 2010
- While imperfect, I've been known to take a male-male audio cable, and plug one end into the audio-out, and the other end into the microphone/audio-in. As for what kind of degradation in quality this results in, I have no idea. But it's what I've done in the past (on rare occasions), and it worked for me.
Though, I've also used the "output to WAV" setting which, as you said, is hidden, obtuse, and very difficult to find. For a month, I thought my microphone jack was broken (or, something relating to recording) because of the settings I had enabled years earlier. For whatever reason, no audio inputs were being recorded. It turned out I disabled numerous audio settings, so that I could record directly from something else (it's been more than a year, I don't really remember what was going on).
Anyway, yah, completely agreed. The settings are hidden, and a serious pain to work with. It's caused me numerous issues, when I've needed it. Mouser X over and out.
- by Elven Spellmaker at 9:22 PM EDT on May 17, 2010
- Most soundcards do have this function on Vista and 7 and to enable it, go to Control Panel --> Sound --> Recording Tab then right click show hidden/disabled devices and enable anything like Mono/Stereo Mix or any of the above Ruk was talking about.
Its funny because all Realtek chipsets seem to have it, but the expensiveish Creative card we have doesn't have it. X_X
- by RukarioGyiyg996 at 9:36 PM EDT on May 17, 2010
- Creative cards are supposed to have "What U Hear", "MIDI Synth", and "Wave", there's supposed to be a driver supplied by Creative themselves to fix that in Windows 7, but I'm surprised you still don't see it Elven.. Maybe Creative is being shit.. They never WHQL sign their drivers either, but who the even cares about WHQL driver signing other than M$..?
I think Creative cards come with it's own mixer separate the windoze one, I've always used that to switch recording inputs, but due to Vista\Windows 7's new audio API, most of that's broken now...
- by holyice7 at 8:25 PM EDT on May 18, 2010
- Heh, Mouser; that's me five years ago. I haven't had to do that for a while.
And that old stereo mix never worked on my old cards, or had terrible feedback like you mentioned. This one, thankfully, is clear as a bell.
- by unknownfile at 11:48 AM EDT on May 19, 2010
- i call microsoft M$ because i'm a macfag hipster
in all honesty, route the sound output via virtual audio cable then record the output in something like audacity
- by iloveyou at 11:02 PM EDT on September 27, 2010
- VGM Logging with Gens/GS, that includes PCM and PWM -ValleyBell-
http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=22771
WoW~^^
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