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- by R. Belmont at 4:40 AM EST on December 5, 2005
- Memories can be decieving - the MAME FM cores (which pretty much everyone *except* Gens uses) are proven to output the same exact digital samples as the real chips in all cases. Jarek's very serious about correctness :-)
- by FBX at 11:28 AM EST on December 5, 2005
- Memories can also be correct. I have a real Genesis and compared the music playback today. In-VGM does play some of the sound channels too loud compared to the real hardware. I also found that the random spanning must be turned off and all notes centered for it to sound closer to the Genesis.
An option to adjust volume for each of the channels would help recreate more accuracy in the channel level reproduction.
- by Vague Rant at 4:47 PM EST on December 5, 2005
- ... all notes centered for it to sound closer to the Genesis.
Uh ... Have you checked if your TV is mono?
- by Knurek at 9:45 PM EST on December 5, 2005
- I've tried out the VGM format using the winamp plugin and, while the sound quality is good, there is something that just doesn't seem right.
Anyway, I've found I get best results by simply recording the music played from Gens emulation.
Which is kinda funny, because in_vgm uses the Gens
soundcode of all things.
- by FBX at 1:54 AM EST on December 14, 2005
- Ok, let me explain first to Vague Rant:
"all notes centered" does NOT affect the pre-programmed channel separation in the Genesis sound file. You're confusing notes with channels. So much for your smartass remark.
Now for Knurek:
Maybe it uses the Gens soundcode, but it doesn't EXECUTE it the same way Gens does. There's a very clear difference you can EASILY make note of when you compare the two side-by-side. So much for your smartass remark.
I'm not some dumb idiot who doesn't have a clue as to what he's talking about. Trust me when I say there's something not quite right with how Genesis music sounds using the winamp plugin. That's all I'm trying to get across, yet I get nothing but "you're a dumbass" posts from the peanut gallery...
edited 6:59 AM EST December 14, 2005
edited 7:01 AM EST December 14, 2005
- by Vague Rant at 2:32 AM EST on December 14, 2005
- Hey there. How about you stop being a punk and consider yourself lucky that you're getting any response at all. None of us is here to help you out, and we're especially not here to help you out when you have a problem with a format which has nothing at all to do with hcs or the USF format.
If you have a problem with the plugin, take it up with its creators, and don't have a teary when you don't get the answer you're after at a completely unrelated forum.
I'm fully willing to accept that the sound emulation for Genesis is not accurate, but that does nothing to help anyone. You got your point across, but apparently that wasn't enough--you didn't get to vent your inconvenient whining at anyone. My advice: tell someone who cares.
- deletezorified by unknownfile at 4:43 AM EST on December 14, 2005
- deletezorified
edited 11:35 AM EST December 14, 2005
- by hcs at 4:56 AM EST on December 14, 2005
- I was going to write a specific response to the last 5 or so messages, but I think I'll leave it at:
Vague: don't tell people what they can do on my forum
UF: shut up
edited 9:58 AM EST December 14, 2005
- by Vague Rant at 3:46 PM EST on December 14, 2005
- I'm not telling anyone what they can or can't do. But I'm sure you'll agree that he would probably get more useful answers elsewhere. I think that makes sense. No one's stopping him doing it here, but he's not necessarily going to get the best help here.
- by unknownfile at 3:48 PM EST on December 14, 2005
- *agrees with Vague Rant*
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