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Sega Genesis Thread by Mr.Sanic at 1:25 PM EDT on October 20, 2017
This thread is supposed to help people with certain problems ripping Genesis sounds.

1.Sega Music is sequened,using SMPS or GEMS
2.You can't simply extract a soundfont,you need the samples.
Also Sega doesn't use soundfonts,it's everything sequenced.
3.Sega CD uses streamed audio,but some games have their samples separated from the streams.
4.And no,Sonic 2 doesn't have the same samples as Sonic.1,theres a lot more than that.

Well,let's start our discussion
Are you having trouble with something?
by Kurausukun at 3:39 PM EDT on October 20, 2017
Just to clarify: the Genesis has its own FM synthesizer, plus a DAC, usually used for percussion.

Good tools are the SMPS research pack + SMPSPlay. Those will give you the best quality for a rip.
by Mr.Sanic at 9:46 PM EDT on October 20, 2017
Yep
Forgot to add this detail.
by Volkov73 at 11:00 PM EDT on October 20, 2017
I'm having trouble ripping some MIDI's and this looks like a great thread to ask.

I managed to rip most of the sonic midi's from .bin files using SMPS2MID.

What produces the best midi files if I want to convert them from other games? Someone told me GEMS2MID but I'm unsure of it's usage.
by Mr.Sanic at 1:59 PM EDT on October 21, 2017
First of all you need to know if your game was sequenced on GEMS or SMPS.
Most of games are on GEMS,But other ones used SMPS,And i strongly recommend SMPS2MID for almost every game.
by MarkGrass at 10:25 PM EDT on August 27, 2018
...did ValleyBell (or anyone else) figure out how to convert the SMPS-variant from Mega Man Wily Wars to MIDI format?
by Infomaniac95 at 1:34 AM EDT on August 28, 2018
Sometime back, i found some tools that could rip the driver, samples, sequences, and envelopes of a gems game, and there was a player to go along with it.

I cannot seem to find those tools anymore sadly.

There was also a gems2mid tool if im not mistaken.

If someone could find and link the tools here, that would be very nice.
by dj4uk6cjm at 1:32 PM EDT on August 28, 2018
I need a newer method than the one I'm currently using to rip midi sequences from sega genesis games with the percussion fully intact accompanied by a rip of the soundfont (sf2 or dls) of also said sega genesis midi sequence, which software should I download to accomplish this?
by birdmanager6 at 9:32 PM EDT on August 28, 2018
To answer all of your questions:

@MarkGrass
Yes, but it uses an unusual pointer table format that differs from the standard one. ValleyBell has notes about it in and the pre-extracted songs from the game in his "SMPS Research Pack", and I actually asked VB about it in another forum. With the songs extracted and a certain hex address, they will work with SMPS2MID. I also have the MIDIs extracted based on hex data I painstakingly ripped from the ROM based on ValleyBell's extracted data, so if you want it, you can ask me.

@Infomaniac95
Those are two tools, GemsScan and GemsPlay. They are actually easy to find if you look them up online (the source is also included). However, please note that GemsScan doesn't work properly, completely (if there's more than one set of data, such as in The Simpsons: Bart's Nightmare), or even at all (sometimes just the driver). For all the cases that fail, the data must be extracted manually using a hex editor. I have actually managed to rip all the data I could from every single ROM I have in my collection, and I also have a batch script available for playing each of the extracted data in GemsPlay as well as a modified version of the "My_GEMS_Pointers.txt" file containing all the addresses that I could find. Again, if you ask, I will be able to give you the set of data.

@dj4uk6cjm
I can't tell exactly what you're saying. Do you mean that you're trying to convert music from MegaDrive ROMs to MIDI, but you're not content with the method you're currently using? And you are also trying to convert samples to SoundFont 2?

edited 9:33 PM EDT August 28, 2018
by Infomaniac95 at 12:48 AM EDT on August 29, 2018
Could you send that GEMS collection per chance?

It would be nice to have a collection similar to the SMPS Research Pack.

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